Scene7 Web to Print
We worked with Adobe a bit on their Scene7 product, and I have to say that it is some of the most promising technology out there for Web to Print. There are two big gotchas that I hope are overcome soon:
- The text that is possible with Flash 10 is not fully functional: this stands to improve once FXG 2.0 is available, the hope is that FXG 2.0 will be fully supported. As of now the text is more like FXG 1+, it isn’t quite robust enough for our typical clients.
- The pricing model is crazy. I think they priced it so high that they would make sure not to get slammed with too many initial implementations. $50K/year as a base price with multiple forms of transaction/bandwidth costs on top of that is hardly a SaaS model. You either pay as you go or you pay up front, they can’t ask for both…
Also, it appears in their early concepts of how the app would be used, they imagined one would hit the server for the Flash renditions! I think the whole beauty of sharing the XML model between PDF and Flash is leveraging what the client can do…
Demonstration of the Scene7 web-to-print solution
Anyway, in all my years of working with great programmers, including many at Adobe, I have never seen a group as great as those working on Scene7 web to print. I am very optimistic about its future.
The fundamental beauty of the Scene7 model for web to print is that it uses the same XML to describe the web document and the print document. It also extends the XML used in Flash (FXG) to support requirements of print such as CMYK color. Tricky, as this would ideally not be done in a separate namespace, but would be part of the core FXG spec itself. In general it is awkward how the different groups at Adobe work together: they are all focused on their own short-term deliverables and can’t often reconcile or coordinate the overlapping parts of their efforts.
Which brings us to… InDesign Server. One might have guessed that Scene7 would use InDesign Server rather than build their own form of PDF generation totally independent, with a different text engine (common with Illustrator/Flash, not InDesign) and different XML model (FXG vs. IDML). Sadly, the InDesign project does represent the ultimate in text engines, the ultimate in document feature sets for long documents, etc., but there has not been a desire to use it from the Scene7 group. They didn’t find it much of a true server product, apparently, which is quite understandable. The “server” dimension of IDS is minimalist, it is essentially the rendition half of the desktop product with a few hooks and enough “build it yourself” aspects that solution providers like us have a fairly endless stream of opportunity.
So Scene7 will hopefully become a big part of our work next year, assuming the 2 issues above are handled, yet InDesign Server will remain, especially for longer documents and those cases where extending a desktop InDesign workflow to the server is easier when avoiding issues around reconciling text and layout engines. We don’t really mind two systems, but some day I’m sure we’ll hit a hybrid case where we use both, and in some long-term road map (CS7?) they should actually get reconciled.
Adobe product managers have managed to calm down my early complaints about non-reconciliation of these two engines. One pointed out the incredible backwards compatibility responsibilities of IDS: they can’t just start over… one tiny bug in one tiny dot release can screw up a million documents for a client, they are not as agile as a SaaS shop.
In terms of SaaS; as of now, Scene7 is almost only SaaS and IDS is almost only self-hosted. It is likely that both products will cross over the other direction. We can host IDS in an EC2 environment just fine, with great scalability, yet the licensing is not SaaS friendly. In similar fashion, Scene7 can install just fine as a self-hosted software, yet they only allow this in “special” situations and tend to push for SaaS at all costs.
